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gameshoes3003 · Sep 28, 2007, 02:40 AM // 02:40

"Feeling Stronger!"
10 energy
30 second recharge time
Shout. For 5...15 seconds, party members within earshot gain an additional 10...51 health and 5 energy and also deal 5% more damage. (Motivation).

cgruber · Sep 28, 2007, 04:27 AM // 04:27

overpowered.

Hawkeye · Sep 28, 2007, 07:33 AM // 07:33

Not only is it overpowered, it doesn't make any sense. The shouts are meant to give some sort of psychological edge over another player. 'Watch Yourself!' for example would cause a player to pay particularly more attention when in a fight (thus potentially reducing damage inflicted by attacks).

There's no reason why a player's health, energy, and damage inflicted should increase upon hearing the words, "Feeling Stronger!" At that point, you might as well make it a shout called, "Punch in the God mode codes!" and take no damage for 10 seconds.

Besides, for me, there's nothing interesting about this skill. It is a flat benefit skill without conditions. There should be some sort of condition that would suit some players with certain classes or with certain states. +health and +energy helps everybody.

How about something more like a shout-wide 'endure pain'?

"Brace yourselves!" (10 energy, 1/4 cast, 45 recharge) - Shout. For 10 seconds, all players within earshot gain 50%..200% to max health of damage inflicted by their next hit.

This would help temporarily, since once this wears off, the damage of the hit takes effect.

gameshoes3003 · Oct 02, 2007, 10:24 PM // 22:24

You don't like the fact that it costs 10 energy and the 25 second recharge time?
10 energy to a paragon takes a while to recover depending on your build.

Div · Oct 02, 2007, 10:39 PM // 22:39

10 energy takes about half a second to recover when you use this skill + watch yourself.

Snow Bunny · Oct 03, 2007, 02:05 AM // 02:05

I hope this would be elite, so that it wouldn't be good enough to be used.

Otherwise it'd end up as another overpowered shout on a Para bar.

Darkhell153 · Oct 03, 2007, 02:16 AM // 02:16

it's overpowered...way overpowered.

bhavv · Oct 03, 2007, 02:41 AM // 02:41

Gameshoes, you know there wont even be anymore skills added to GW right?

Although it wouldnt be overpowered as a PVE skill XD.

Poqow · Oct 03, 2007, 02:17 PM // 14:17

Although their regen is low but energy shouldnt be an issue for paragons when using adrenal shouts >_>

Terra Xin · Oct 03, 2007, 02:39 PM // 14:39

Overpowered? The OP says that you gain 'additional' health and energy, which means you lose it after the shout expires. Good for a little parlor spike, nothing more.

gameshoes3003 · Oct 04, 2007, 04:11 AM // 04:11

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Originally Posted by holymasamune

10 energy takes about half a second to recover when you use this skill + watch yourself.

Good point, I totally forgot about the Leadership attribute for paragons.

Antheus · Oct 04, 2007, 12:02 PM // 12:02

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Originally Posted by gameshoes3003

Good point, I totally forgot about the Leadership attribute for paragons.

You also didn't consider that you can have more than one paragon in group.

gameshoes3003 · Oct 04, 2007, 09:20 PM // 21:20

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Originally Posted by Antheus

You also didn't consider that you can have more than one paragon in group.

You would want more than one why?
Maybe for Heroe's Ascent? That's it?
Increased recharge time and skewed the duration.

Aeon221 · Oct 04, 2007, 10:29 PM // 22:29

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Originally Posted by gameshoes3003

Good point, I totally forgot about the Leadership attribute for paragons.

Good thing you're so up on game mechanics.

Bale_Shadowscar · Oct 04, 2007, 10:33 PM // 22:33

Agreed with poster #3. If you're in the street and someone shouts 'Watch yourself!', you're gonna, well, watch yourself. If someone shouts 'Feeling Stronger!' then..

freaky naughty · Oct 04, 2007, 11:58 PM // 23:58

Yeah the shout just doesn't make sense. If you yell it in the middle of a fight you'll just get shouts of "Wtf?"

Saying that you feel stronger doesn't actually mean you're stronger.

Antheus · Oct 05, 2007, 12:04 AM // 00:04

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Originally Posted by gameshoes3003

You would want more than one why?
Maybe for Heroe's Ascent? That's it?

You should try doing anything in GW with 3-5 paragons.

You'll be smiling for days.

There's a reason people say Paragons are the most unbalanced class (HA or anywhere else).

Paragons also have a stigma of uselessness, so they get played much less than other classes. In addition, some of their insane skills are PvE only, or particularly good in PvE.

But once you set up a human team with 2/3 paras, you realize the power they have. Hard mode becomes pre-searing, the AoE insta-wipe becomes damange not worth healing, monks are sitting idly, and more.

Unlike other classes which clash with each other (having 2 SS necros is not productive, nor is 2 prot monks), every paragon you add to the team is insane boost.

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Increased recharge time and skewed the duration.

There's some very handy skills which cut down recharge, so 30 sec recharge with 15 duration doesn't change anything. This is the reason some of paragon skills got nerfed into oblivion (3 sec duration max).